Posts tagged The Shade

So in Suicide Squad #26 we see a cameo appearance of Vigilante in the wild west. And a couple years back we saw him appear in The Shade #4 in 1944. Very interesting. It looks like Vigilante might be up to some time traveling in the New 52.

Could this mean that there is some sort of a Seven Soldiers of Victory in the New 52? We know Green Arrow (Oliver Queen) and Roy Harper (Arsenal) are alive in the present. Sylvester Pemberton (Star-Spangled KId/Skyman) was alive at some point and he did some heroing. Pat Dugan (Stripesy/S.T.R.I.P.E.) and Syl’s predecessor Courtney Whitmore (Stargirl) are alive and well. Sir Ystin was part of the Demon Knights in the distant past. Lee Travis (Crimson Avenger) and James Wing (WIng) exist on Earth 2. It would be great to see this team come together over may timelines and timepoints. 

Who would you like to see in the Seven Soldiers in the New 52?

CBR covered the James Robinson Spotlight Panel at WonderCon 2014. James described the his upcoming story arc for All-New Invaders:

The next arc after ‘Original Sin’ that features a Japanese-American character — her Japanese name is … Supreme Radiant Friend. That’s issue #6 and #7, and 8 and 9 and maybe 10 is set in Germany. It’s very much a Bucky story, very much Jim Hammond and Namor. It’s about them taking on every Deathlok that exists in that universe. After that, there are things going on in the big picture that you’ll be excited about.

Robinson also spoke about his eventual plans for Earth 2:

I always wanted to make Alan Scott’s second characteristic being gay. No offense to anybody, but sometimes sexuality can be all that’s identifiable about them. I knew one of the subplots was going to be him finally finding love again. I guess I was being spiteful, but there was a guy from Brazil who constantly said God was going to punish me for making him gay. So, I resolved that if Alan was going to get a boyfriend, he was going to be from Brazil.
The writer wanted to do “Justice Society,” but said that DC said “society” was a word the publisher wanted to step away from. Robinson stated that his “Earth 2” team was more like a “Justice Society of Benetton,” with different heroes across many different nationalities.

If DC still holds that position it looks like we won’t see a Justice Society in Earth 2. That is a bummer. It is weird that they want to step away from the word “society” after Forever Evil was all about the Secret Society of Super-Villains and the Crime Syndicate. I suppose during that time they could have been thinking people might mix up the Secret Society with the Justice Society. However their readers are able to navigate their way through Justice League, Justice League International, Justice League Dark, Justice League of America, Justice League of America’s Vibe, Justice League 3000, and Justice League United.
James Robinson also discussed, Starman, The Shade, Justice League of America, Fantastic Four, The Saviors, and Airboy. The whole article is great. GO READ THE WHOLE THING NOW!

CBR covered the James Robinson Spotlight Panel at WonderCon 2014. James described the his upcoming story arc for All-New Invaders:

The next arc after ‘Original Sin’ that features a Japanese-American character — her Japanese name is … Supreme Radiant Friend. That’s issue #6 and #7, and 8 and 9 and maybe 10 is set in Germany. It’s very much a Bucky story, very much Jim Hammond and Namor. It’s about them taking on every Deathlok that exists in that universe. After that, there are things going on in the big picture that you’ll be excited about.

Robinson also spoke about his eventual plans for Earth 2:

I always wanted to make Alan Scott’s second characteristic being gay. No offense to anybody, but sometimes sexuality can be all that’s identifiable about them. I knew one of the subplots was going to be him finally finding love again. I guess I was being spiteful, but there was a guy from Brazil who constantly said God was going to punish me for making him gay. So, I resolved that if Alan was going to get a boyfriend, he was going to be from Brazil.

The writer wanted to do “Justice Society,” but said that DC said “society” was a word the publisher wanted to step away from. Robinson stated that his “Earth 2” team was more like a “Justice Society of Benetton,” with different heroes across many different nationalities.

If DC still holds that position it looks like we won’t see a Justice Society in Earth 2. That is a bummer. It is weird that they want to step away from the word “society” after Forever Evil was all about the Secret Society of Super-Villains and the Crime Syndicate. I suppose during that time they could have been thinking people might mix up the Secret Society with the Justice Society. However their readers are able to navigate their way through Justice League, Justice League International, Justice League Dark, Justice League of America, Justice League of America’s Vibe, Justice League 3000, and Justice League United.

James Robinson also discussed, Starman, The Shade, Justice League of America, Fantastic FourThe Saviors, and Airboy. The whole article is great. GO READ THE WHOLE THING NOW!

CBR covered the ”The Long Game” panel at WonderCon 2014 which covered long form storytelling and continuity in comic books. The panelists included Mark Waid, Kelly Sue DeConnick, Francis Manapul,James Robinson, Tony Daniel, and Robert Venditti. James Robinson had a lot to say about working on Starman and The Shade:

Waid asked him [Robinson] how much of a plan he had going into the title’s [Starman] 80+ issue run (including annuals and specials). “I was determined to beat Gaiman’s ‘Sandman,’” quipped the writer.
According to Robinson, DC’s editorial hierarchy in the 1990s consisted of three controlling group editors: Denny O’Neil, Mike Carlin and Archie Goodwin. Two out of the three editors had to approve any project in order for it to move forward. “I kept saying to Archie, ‘When can I have a new Starman?’” At the time, ‘Starman’ featured Will Payton as the lead character and was not fondly regarded by fans or the staff. Robinson remembered Carlin specifically saying “no one wants to read another ‘Starman’ book.” Eventually, Goodwin and Carlin hammered out a deal for Robinson to write a four-issue miniseries, eventually published as issues #0-3 of the ongoing series. What changed the title’s status? “At the end of the fourth issue, I had the two other Starmen [Will Payton and Mikaal Tomas] show up for a cliffhanger. Carlin saw it coming together and said, ‘Let’s go for it.’”
When Waid pointed out that market forces could change a plan like that, Robinson noted that his The Shade mini series was originally meant to be an ongoing in the wake of the sales success of the Blackest Night Starman tie-in special. “Originally, [DC co-publisher] Dan DiDio asked me to make it monthly,” he said. The two eventually agreed on the miniseries, but by then, the New 52 became the focus of the company’s attention. “Had they made ‘Shade’ one of those [ongoing] books, it wouldn’t have been the book it was,” he explained. That editorial freedom did come at the cost of sales and marketing attention. In order to secure a collected edition, Robinson had to appeal to the fans to read “Shade” monthly.

CBR covered the ”The Long Game” panel at WonderCon 2014 which covered long form storytelling and continuity in comic books. The panelists included Mark WaidKelly Sue DeConnickFrancis Manapul,James RobinsonTony Daniel, and Robert Venditti. James Robinson had a lot to say about working on Starman and The Shade:

Waid asked him [Robinson] how much of a plan he had going into the title’s [Starman] 80+ issue run (including annuals and specials). “I was determined to beat Gaiman’s ‘Sandman,’” quipped the writer.

According to Robinson, DC’s editorial hierarchy in the 1990s consisted of three controlling group editors: Denny O’Neil, Mike Carlin and Archie Goodwin. Two out of the three editors had to approve any project in order for it to move forward. “I kept saying to Archie, ‘When can I have a new Starman?’” At the time, ‘Starman’ featured Will Payton as the lead character and was not fondly regarded by fans or the staff. Robinson remembered Carlin specifically saying “no one wants to read another ‘Starman’ book.” Eventually, Goodwin and Carlin hammered out a deal for Robinson to write a four-issue miniseries, eventually published as issues #0-3 of the ongoing series. What changed the title’s status? “At the end of the fourth issue, I had the two other Starmen [Will Payton and Mikaal Tomas] show up for a cliffhanger. Carlin saw it coming together and said, ‘Let’s go for it.’”

When Waid pointed out that market forces could change a plan like that, Robinson noted that his The Shade mini series was originally meant to be an ongoing in the wake of the sales success of the Blackest Night Starman tie-in special. “Originally, [DC co-publisher] Dan DiDio asked me to make it monthly,” he said. The two eventually agreed on the miniseries, but by then, the New 52 became the focus of the company’s attention. “Had they made ‘Shade’ one of those [ongoing] books, it wouldn’t have been the book it was,” he explained. That editorial freedom did come at the cost of sales and marketing attention. In order to secure a collected edition, Robinson had to appeal to the fans to read “Shade” monthly.

James Robinson joined Jann Robinson, and Mark Waid for a discussion on the Word Balloon podcast at the Aw Yeah Comics store in Skokie, IL with John Siuntres. During the chat when James was asked about a follow up to the recent miniseries, The Shade he expanded on his previous explanation of what The Shade/Batman miniseries would be about if he wrote it.

Well, I mean, I have to be inventive to do more. I have to come up with an idea. I mean, it didn’t sell that well. It was sort of over looked with all of the new 52 material that was out at the same time. But I have come up with another story that involves the Shade, and it would involve all of the immortal characters of the DC Universe. It would be the Shade meeting Batman and then you know the Demon, and Ra’s Al Ghul, and all these other characters, Vandal Savage. So hopefully with the Batman element it would make it commercial enough that I might get another chance at doing the Shade. We’ll just have to wait and see. At the moment I’m very busy with Earth 2 and stuff that will be announced soon that I am working on as well.

As usual the Word Balloon episode was great, there was more Earth 2 talk, and you should listen.

James Robinson joined Jann Robinson, and Mark Waid for a discussion on the Word Balloon podcast at the Aw Yeah Comics store in Skokie, IL with John Siuntres. During the chat when James was asked about a follow up to the recent miniseries, The Shade he expanded on his previous explanation of what The Shade/Batman miniseries would be about if he wrote it.

Well, I mean, I have to be inventive to do more. I have to come up with an idea. I mean, it didn’t sell that well. It was sort of over looked with all of the new 52 material that was out at the same time. But I have come up with another story that involves the Shade, and it would involve all of the immortal characters of the DC Universe. It would be the Shade meeting Batman and then you know the Demon, and Ra’s Al Ghul, and all these other characters, Vandal Savage. So hopefully with the Batman element it would make it commercial enough that I might get another chance at doing the Shade. We’ll just have to wait and see. At the moment I’m very busy with Earth 2 and stuff that will be announced soon that I am working on as well.

As usual the Word Balloon episode was great, there was more Earth 2 talk, and you should listen.

James Robinson was at the Emerald City Comic Con earlier this month. He was part of the DC New 52 panel that Newsarama covered. During the panel it was said:

Captain Steel is an important piece to a major event in 2014 and issue #13.

When asked about more Starman spin-offs Robinson responded with:

The problem with The Shade is that it did not sell very well.

CBR reported that he sat down for an intimate chat with Matt Pizzolo. During the conversation the topic of Green Lantern, Alan Scott came up.

There are so few gay characters, I felt like it was a shame to have one of these iconic characters go away. It occurred to me why not make Alan Scott gay, and make him this cool guy?

James Robinson was at the Emerald City Comic Con earlier this month. He was part of the DC New 52 panel that Newsarama covered. During the panel it was said:

Captain Steel is an important piece to a major event in 2014 and issue #13.

When asked about more Starman spin-offs Robinson responded with:

The problem with The Shade is that it did not sell very well.

CBR reported that he sat down for an intimate chat with Matt Pizzolo. During the conversation the topic of Green Lantern, Alan Scott came up.

There are so few gay characters, I felt like it was a shame to have one of these iconic characters go away. It occurred to me why not make Alan Scott gay, and make him this cool guy?

PopMatters has an interview with James Robinson about The Shade series recently collected. The subject matter dives into the character’s relationship with class in society.

PopMatters has an interview with James Robinson about The Shade series recently collected. The subject matter dives into the character’s relationship with class in society.

The Source has a preview of The Shade #12 and talks with Gene Ha and James Robinson about the final issue.
Here is what James had to say about the series.

I’ve loved writing this series; returning to an old friend yet sending him on a new journey that I feel was fresh and unfamiliar for readers and showed the character has more facets than just a shadowy resident of Opal City. I’ve had a blast, not just with the Shade but also all the new characters I’ve created and introduced along the way. I hope you enjoyed them too.

And Gene Ha talked about its origin:

A few years ago at the C2E2 comic convention in Chicago, James walked up to my table. He’d pitched a new Shade series to DC and wanted me to do the last issue, which would also be the earliest story in the Shade’s history. It would be set right before my issue of the 1997 Shade series. I’d return to Victorian England to show how the Shade became the monster we love. I blurted, ‘Yes!!!’ I think he had a longer spiel ready, but I cut him off. This comic book had to be.

The Source has a preview of The Shade #12 and talks with Gene Ha and James Robinson about the final issue.

Here is what James had to say about the series.

I’ve loved writing this series; returning to an old friend yet sending him on a new journey that I feel was fresh and unfamiliar for readers and showed the character has more facets than just a shadowy resident of Opal City. I’ve had a blast, not just with the Shade but also all the new characters I’ve created and introduced along the way. I hope you enjoyed them too.

And Gene Ha talked about its origin:

A few years ago at the C2E2 comic convention in Chicago, James walked up to my table. He’d pitched a new Shade series to DC and wanted me to do the last issue, which would also be the earliest story in the Shade’s history. It would be set right before my issue of the 1997 Shade series. I’d return to Victorian England to show how the Shade became the monster we love. I blurted, ‘Yes!!!’ I think he had a longer spiel ready, but I cut him off. This comic book had to be.

CBR spoke with James Robinson about wrapping up The Shade miniseries coming to a close this month with issue #12. During the interview James talked about what he would like to do with Shade next.

In fact I have another idea for the Shade — a Shade and Batman story with little flashbacks to the past. I don’t know if DC will ever let me do it because sales on “The Shade” were not particularly high, but if I ever got the chance my idea would be to have the main story told by one artist for five issues, but then each issue is to have six pages of flashback portrayed by different cool artists. So yes, I like that form of storytelling and I would like to do it again, and if I ever got the opportunity I’d like to do the Shade again. I love writing the characters and I was very relieved after so many years away from him to be able to pick up the “quilled pen” and write in his voice again pretty effortlessly.

Go read the rest of the interview. 

CBR spoke with James Robinson about wrapping up The Shade miniseries coming to a close this month with issue #12. During the interview James talked about what he would like to do with Shade next.

In fact I have another idea for the Shade — a Shade and Batman story with little flashbacks to the past. I don’t know if DC will ever let me do it because sales on “The Shade” were not particularly high, but if I ever got the chance my idea would be to have the main story told by one artist for five issues, but then each issue is to have six pages of flashback portrayed by different cool artists. So yes, I like that form of storytelling and I would like to do it again, and if I ever got the opportunity I’d like to do the Shade again. I love writing the characters and I was very relieved after so many years away from him to be able to pick up the “quilled pen” and write in his voice again pretty effortlessly.

Go read the rest of the interview

The Source has posted the variant cover of The Shade #12 by Gene Ha to their website.

The Source has posted the variant cover of The Shade #12 by Gene Ha to their website.

Bleeding Cool covered the “James Robinson Spotlight Panel” at CCI. There are a lot of good Earth 2 related bits in the article. Here is a quick rundown.
Plans for the first 15-24 issues are laid out with flexibility for a Justice League/Justice Society cross-over.
Robinson has an idea for second Shade series but is unsure if it will happen because of sales
 The Justice Society book was first commissioned when the reboot was just a relaunch. Originally the idea was that the series was going to be set in the 1940s. It was Mad Men like.
We will see the Atom in issue #4
There will be an Asian member joining the team
Terry Slone isn’t going to be is good as he once was.
There is also a suprise black female reporter coming
If Starman does appear he will be a new character.
He is kicking around an idea for an Earth 2 ‘Legion of Super-Heroes’ and calling it Infinity Inc., which could also allow him to bring back Jade and Obsidian.
Geoff Johns has pans for Stargirl.
He has already written a three part golden age Vigilante backup set in Galveston that Darwyn Cooke was going to draw, but he was taken off the story to work on Before Watchmen.
I love the idea of Infinity Inc. as the Earth 2 Legion!

Bleeding Cool covered the “James Robinson Spotlight Panel” at CCI. There are a lot of good Earth 2 related bits in the article. Here is a quick rundown.

  • Plans for the first 15-24 issues are laid out with flexibility for a Justice League/Justice Society cross-over.
  • Robinson has an idea for second Shade series but is unsure if it will happen because of sales
  •  The Justice Society book was first commissioned when the reboot was just a relaunch. Originally the idea was that the series was going to be set in the 1940s. It was Mad Men like.
  • We will see the Atom in issue #4
  • There will be an Asian member joining the team
  • Terry Slone isn’t going to be is good as he once was.
  • There is also a suprise black female reporter coming
  • If Starman does appear he will be a new character.
  • He is kicking around an idea for an Earth 2 ‘Legion of Super-Heroes’ and calling it Infinity Inc., which could also allow him to bring back Jade and Obsidian.
  • Geoff Johns has pans for Stargirl.
  • He has already written a three part golden age Vigilante backup set in Galveston that Darwyn Cooke was going to draw, but he was taken off the story to work on Before Watchmen.

I love the idea of Infinity Inc. as the Earth 2 Legion!