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Jen Van Meter was interviewed as part of CBR’s “Sunday Conversation” feature. During the chat she brought up her story arc in JSA Classified, “Honor Among Thieves.” She had this to say about it:

Right. Well, we talk. Greg Rucka — my husband — and I talk a lot around the house about the patterns we’ve observed in each other’s work over the past 25 years. One of the things we’ve talked about is, for instance, people will look at his body of work and say, “Rucka really likes writing these badass women.” But at home what we’re often talking about is that the big question he wants to answer, that drives 99% of what he writes, is nature vs. nurture. He’s fascinated by who we are and what we’re made into. In a culture that really aggressively assaults women in terms of self image and self esteem — and men as well — on the basis of gender and sex, we look into his work and see these characters emerge out of him, always thinking about that question. One of my driving questions is about how we build communities, and how community works. I think the family probably winds up being my entry point a lot, in part, because it’s this core community. Out of the households and out of tiny communities we form when we make families, we get a micro version of everything else. It’s funny, because I didn’t really notice how much I was doing it [Laughs] right away. As people started to engage with “Hopeless Savages,” they’d bring it up to me, and I realized I did have that interest. I’m interested in, for lack of a better word, house rules. How we get along. I’m interested in families that make themselves out of collections of people that aren’t necessarily related, or whose relationships aren’t approved by the state, but who nonetheless make family. I laughed when you asked because years ago, when Steve Wacker was still an editor at DC, he called me up and asked if I’d be willing to do a three or four issue mini-series reuniting some villains for a JSA story. I kind of put it down and came back to it and told him, “You’re really talking about a team book, and I don’t really do team books.” He said, “Have you ever read your stuff?”

Jen Van Meter was interviewed as part of CBR’s “Sunday Conversation” feature. During the chat she brought up her story arc in JSA Classified, “Honor Among Thieves.” She had this to say about it:

Right. Well, we talk. Greg Rucka — my husband — and I talk a lot around the house about the patterns we’ve observed in each other’s work over the past 25 years. One of the things we’ve talked about is, for instance, people will look at his body of work and say, “Rucka really likes writing these badass women.” But at home what we’re often talking about is that the big question he wants to answer, that drives 99% of what he writes, is nature vs. nurture. He’s fascinated by who we are and what we’re made into. In a culture that really aggressively assaults women in terms of self image and self esteem — and men as well — on the basis of gender and sex, we look into his work and see these characters emerge out of him, always thinking about that question. One of my driving questions is about how we build communities, and how community works. I think the family probably winds up being my entry point a lot, in part, because it’s this core community. Out of the households and out of tiny communities we form when we make families, we get a micro version of everything else. It’s funny, because I didn’t really notice how much I was doing it [Laughs] right away. As people started to engage with “Hopeless Savages,” they’d bring it up to me, and I realized I did have that interest. I’m interested in, for lack of a better word, house rules. How we get along. I’m interested in families that make themselves out of collections of people that aren’t necessarily related, or whose relationships aren’t approved by the state, but who nonetheless make family. I laughed when you asked because years ago, when Steve Wacker was still an editor at DC, he called me up and asked if I’d be willing to do a three or four issue mini-series reuniting some villains for a JSA story. I kind of put it down and came back to it and told him, “You’re really talking about a team book, and I don’t really do team books.” He said, “Have you ever read your stuff?”

Nicola Scott was interviewed in the same Word Balloon episode that had the interview with Greg Pak. She talked about the secret origin of the Earth 2 series. I’d suggest listening to the podcast because the following was said in a light manner. Without that it could sound pretty harsh and it really didn’t come across that way. I found the pitch for 1960s JSA really interesting. It sounds kind of like JSA meets Mad Men. Anyway here is Nicola Scott on the the creation of Earth 2:


I was asked if I would like to do the job in June the year before it started and I don’t think I actually started on it until maybe January or February. I can’t remember when it was now. Now when I was first asked about it, it was going to be a 1960s JSA book where the heroes were all in their 40s and i think part of the reason why I was offered the job was because, you know, it would all be about the fashions and the trends and all that kind of stuff and they thought well maybe a girl would be good for that. So that is possibly why I was offered the job in the first place. That’s not quite being fair to DC but I think it’s probably one of the ingredients. And the idea continued to evolve as they were you know nutting it out and getting closer and closer. Eventually it got to the point where the idea got bigger and they knew - you know it turned into what it turned into. And I don’t know but I think there might have been a little bit of,  Oooo we already attached Nicola to this book and suddenly it’s a big boy book but a big boy book was kind of what I asked for. I said I want a testosterone book I want to see if I could draw one.

Weather DC thought that or not, there is no question that Nicola is kicking butt on the series.

Nicola Scott was interviewed in the same Word Balloon episode that had the interview with Greg Pak. She talked about the secret origin of the Earth 2 series. I’d suggest listening to the podcast because the following was said in a light manner. Without that it could sound pretty harsh and it really didn’t come across that way. I found the pitch for 1960s JSA really interesting. It sounds kind of like JSA meets Mad Men. Anyway here is Nicola Scott on the the creation of Earth 2:

I was asked if I would like to do the job in June the year before it started and I don’t think I actually started on it until maybe January or February. I can’t remember when it was now. Now when I was first asked about it, it was going to be a 1960s JSA book where the heroes were all in their 40s and i think part of the reason why I was offered the job was because, you know, it would all be about the fashions and the trends and all that kind of stuff and they thought well maybe a girl would be good for that. So that is possibly why I was offered the job in the first place. That’s not quite being fair to DC but I think it’s probably one of the ingredients. And the idea continued to evolve as they were you know nutting it out and getting closer and closer. Eventually it got to the point where the idea got bigger and they knew - you know it turned into what it turned into. And I don’t know but I think there might have been a little bit of,  Oooo we already attached Nicola to this book and suddenly it’s a big boy book but a big boy book was kind of what I asked for. I said I want a testosterone book I want to see if I could draw one.

Weather DC thought that or not, there is no question that Nicola is kicking butt on the series.

CBR covered the James Robinson Spotlight Panel at WonderCon 2014. James described the his upcoming story arc for All-New Invaders:

The next arc after ‘Original Sin’ that features a Japanese-American character — her Japanese name is … Supreme Radiant Friend. That’s issue #6 and #7, and 8 and 9 and maybe 10 is set in Germany. It’s very much a Bucky story, very much Jim Hammond and Namor. It’s about them taking on every Deathlok that exists in that universe. After that, there are things going on in the big picture that you’ll be excited about.

Robinson also spoke about his eventual plans for Earth 2:

I always wanted to make Alan Scott’s second characteristic being gay. No offense to anybody, but sometimes sexuality can be all that’s identifiable about them. I knew one of the subplots was going to be him finally finding love again. I guess I was being spiteful, but there was a guy from Brazil who constantly said God was going to punish me for making him gay. So, I resolved that if Alan was going to get a boyfriend, he was going to be from Brazil.
The writer wanted to do “Justice Society,” but said that DC said “society” was a word the publisher wanted to step away from. Robinson stated that his “Earth 2” team was more like a “Justice Society of Benetton,” with different heroes across many different nationalities.

If DC still holds that position it looks like we won’t see a Justice Society in Earth 2. That is a bummer. It is weird that they want to step away from the word “society” after Forever Evil was all about the Secret Society of Super-Villains and the Crime Syndicate. I suppose during that time they could have been thinking people might mix up the Secret Society with the Justice Society. However their readers are able to navigate their way through Justice League, Justice League International, Justice League Dark, Justice League of America, Justice League of America’s Vibe, Justice League 3000, and Justice League United.
James Robinson also discussed, Starman, The Shade, Justice League of America, Fantastic Four, The Saviors, and Airboy. The whole article is great. GO READ THE WHOLE THING NOW!

CBR covered the James Robinson Spotlight Panel at WonderCon 2014. James described the his upcoming story arc for All-New Invaders:

The next arc after ‘Original Sin’ that features a Japanese-American character — her Japanese name is … Supreme Radiant Friend. That’s issue #6 and #7, and 8 and 9 and maybe 10 is set in Germany. It’s very much a Bucky story, very much Jim Hammond and Namor. It’s about them taking on every Deathlok that exists in that universe. After that, there are things going on in the big picture that you’ll be excited about.

Robinson also spoke about his eventual plans for Earth 2:

I always wanted to make Alan Scott’s second characteristic being gay. No offense to anybody, but sometimes sexuality can be all that’s identifiable about them. I knew one of the subplots was going to be him finally finding love again. I guess I was being spiteful, but there was a guy from Brazil who constantly said God was going to punish me for making him gay. So, I resolved that if Alan was going to get a boyfriend, he was going to be from Brazil.

The writer wanted to do “Justice Society,” but said that DC said “society” was a word the publisher wanted to step away from. Robinson stated that his “Earth 2” team was more like a “Justice Society of Benetton,” with different heroes across many different nationalities.

If DC still holds that position it looks like we won’t see a Justice Society in Earth 2. That is a bummer. It is weird that they want to step away from the word “society” after Forever Evil was all about the Secret Society of Super-Villains and the Crime Syndicate. I suppose during that time they could have been thinking people might mix up the Secret Society with the Justice Society. However their readers are able to navigate their way through Justice League, Justice League International, Justice League Dark, Justice League of America, Justice League of America’s Vibe, Justice League 3000, and Justice League United.

James Robinson also discussed, Starman, The Shade, Justice League of America, Fantastic FourThe Saviors, and Airboy. The whole article is great. GO READ THE WHOLE THING NOW!

A JSA versus JLI pie fight! Happy Pi Day!

This scene is from Batman: The Brave and the Bold, Season 3: Episode 10, “Crisis: 22,300 Miles Above Earth”

Earth 2 has seen a bunch of additions to its cast over the past couple months. Who would you like to see get the the new Earth 2 treatment next? I have omitted any characters or legacies that have already appeared. An example would be, Green Lantern, has appeared so he, Jade and Obsidian are not on the list. 

What JSA Member/Legacy would you like to get the Earth 2 treatment?

Earth 2 has seen a bunch of additions to its cast over the past couple months. Who would you like to see get the the new Earth 2 treatment next? I have omitted any characters or legacies that have already appeared. An example would be, Green Lantern, has appeared so he, Jade and Obsidian are not on the list.

CBR spoke with James Robinson about the first issue of All-New Invaders. He had interesting things to say comparing the JSA to the Invaders.

I’ve always loved Golden Age characters, and I really enjoyed Roy Thomas and Frank Robbins’ “Invaders” series for Marvel. Thomas was very true to the continuity at DC Comics, but sometimes that Golden Age continuity can be very contradictory, or because it was more simplistic, it doesn’t make sense to modern viewers. At Marvel, he established that the Golden Age comic books published by Atlas Comics were fictional depictions of those Marvel characters, so he had a little more creative leeway with what he was writing in “Invaders.” The stories were a little more mature and he could do things like bring in an African American Human Top or an Asian Golden Girl, whereas in the 1940s, they wouldn’t have done that, obviously.
That always interested me, and the other thing is, it was one thing to tell a Justice Society story in the 1960s when the JSA were like sexy 40-year old guys.They all looked like Paul Newman or Robert Redford. But the origin of characters like the Fantastic Four, which took place in 1961, has moved in time with us as books have been published. World War II, though, is a locked point in history. If someone fought in World War II when they were in their 20s, they’re now at least 90 years old.
That’s obviously a problem with the Justice Society, and often led to their stories feeling like a passing of the baton to a younger generation of heroes. But with the Invaders, the five main characters — Captain America, Namor, the Human Torch, Toro and the Winter Soldier — kept some degree of their youth, for one reason or another. The characters are approximately the same physical age as they were back then. I find that very interesting. There isn’t a sense of a group of elder statesmen passing a baton. I’ll be incorporating them into the ongoing universe as modern Marvel characters, but at the same time, they have this past history together, so I’m portraying them as a band of brothers.

Characters like Captain America and Namor have been on opposing sides of the fence at times, like in the ’70s, when Namor was a bit more hostile to the human race and Captain America was in the Avengers. Even with that in the past, there is still a camaraderie and bond between those characters. World War II will always be a part of these characters, but at the same time, this will be a modern Marvel comic.
It’s fine to refer to the past and World War II, but the problem with the Invaders can be that every story hangs on something from the past or Nazis. You have Neo-Nazis, or it revolves around Baron Blood or some villain from the past that they have to get back together in order to fight. So in our first arc, there is a key moment in the War that brings these guys together to fight the modern day carryon from that, which is the Kree. They’re looking for a device that the Invaders captured in World War II, but then it goes into the Kree and the cosmic Marvel Universe for five issues. We’re referencing Jonathan Hickman’s recent “Infinity” storyline. It’s a modern Marvel book.
In terms of why I find the Invaders appealing, they allow me to revisit the 1940s or the Golden Age again, but it really feels like a different look and feel than my work at the pre “New 52” DC, where there was a Golden Age and Golden Age Justice Society members.

I can’t wait to read this when I get home tonight! I also hope Marvel and Comixology throws us an Invaders sale this Friday!

CBR spoke with James Robinson about the first issue of All-New Invaders. He had interesting things to say comparing the JSA to the Invaders.

I’ve always loved Golden Age characters, and I really enjoyed Roy Thomas and Frank Robbins’ “Invaders” series for Marvel. Thomas was very true to the continuity at DC Comics, but sometimes that Golden Age continuity can be very contradictory, or because it was more simplistic, it doesn’t make sense to modern viewers. At Marvel, he established that the Golden Age comic books published by Atlas Comics were fictional depictions of those Marvel characters, so he had a little more creative leeway with what he was writing in “Invaders.” The stories were a little more mature and he could do things like bring in an African American Human Top or an Asian Golden Girl, whereas in the 1940s, they wouldn’t have done that, obviously.

That always interested me, and the other thing is, it was one thing to tell a Justice Society story in the 1960s when the JSA were like sexy 40-year old guys.They all looked like Paul Newman or Robert Redford. But the origin of characters like the Fantastic Four, which took place in 1961, has moved in time with us as books have been published. World War II, though, is a locked point in history. If someone fought in World War II when they were in their 20s, they’re now at least 90 years old.

That’s obviously a problem with the Justice Society, and often led to their stories feeling like a passing of the baton to a younger generation of heroes. But with the Invaders, the five main characters — Captain America, Namor, the Human Torch, Toro and the Winter Soldier — kept some degree of their youth, for one reason or another. The characters are approximately the same physical age as they were back then. I find that very interesting. There isn’t a sense of a group of elder statesmen passing a baton. I’ll be incorporating them into the ongoing universe as modern Marvel characters, but at the same time, they have this past history together, so I’m portraying them as a band of brothers.


Characters like Captain America and Namor have been on opposing sides of the fence at times, like in the ’70s, when Namor was a bit more hostile to the human race and Captain America was in the Avengers. Even with that in the past, there is still a camaraderie and bond between those characters. World War II will always be a part of these characters, but at the same time, this will be a modern Marvel comic.

It’s fine to refer to the past and World War II, but the problem with the Invaders can be that every story hangs on something from the past or Nazis. You have Neo-Nazis, or it revolves around Baron Blood or some villain from the past that they have to get back together in order to fight. So in our first arc, there is a key moment in the War that brings these guys together to fight the modern day carryon from that, which is the Kree. They’re looking for a device that the Invaders captured in World War II, but then it goes into the Kree and the cosmic Marvel Universe for five issues. We’re referencing Jonathan Hickman’s recent “Infinity” storyline. It’s a modern Marvel book.

In terms of why I find the Invaders appealing, they allow me to revisit the 1940s or the Golden Age again, but it really feels like a different look and feel than my work at the pre “New 52” DC, where there was a Golden Age and Golden Age Justice Society members.

I can’t wait to read this when I get home tonight! I also hope Marvel and Comixology throws us an Invaders sale this Friday!

CBR interviewed Tom Taylor about starting his run on Earth 2. Here is what he had to say about Doctor Fate.

Another character that I like is Khalid Ben-Hassin, the Doctor Fate of Earth 2. I was watching to see what you did, and you swiftly allowed Superman to open up a can of whoop ass on him — and he turns into a babbling mess. Are there some clues within his gibberish of what’s to come, or was he truly just babbling nonsense?
Absolutely, yes. There really is. He’s not just rambling. Sometimes he might be, sometimes he won’t be, but a lot of those words are going to have some meaning moving forward — some soon, some much, much, much later.
We had to do that to him. For me, it’s a bit of a short-hand. Superman’s vulnerability is magic. It made sense to me for Superman to come back and immediately, the first thing he does, is stomp on the head of the magic user, repeatedly.

CBR interviewed Tom Taylor about starting his run on Earth 2. Here is what he had to say about Doctor Fate.

Another character that I like is Khalid Ben-Hassin, the Doctor Fate of Earth 2. I was watching to see what you did, and you swiftly allowed Superman to open up a can of whoop ass on him — and he turns into a babbling mess. Are there some clues within his gibberish of what’s to come, or was he truly just babbling nonsense?

Absolutely, yes. There really is. He’s not just rambling. Sometimes he might be, sometimes he won’t be, but a lot of those words are going to have some meaning moving forward — some soon, some much, much, much later.

We had to do that to him. For me, it’s a bit of a short-hand. Superman’s vulnerability is magic. It made sense to me for Superman to come back and immediately, the first thing he does, is stomp on the head of the magic user, repeatedly.

The Hollywood Reporter, reports the CW is developing a drama based on Hourman.

The Hollywood Reporter, reports the CW is developing a drama based on Hourman.

CBR has a look at the bonus material in the JSA Liberty Files: The Whistling Skull trade paper back,that is out tomorrow.
I hope we get a second mini from these guys with more JSA.

CBR has a look at the bonus material in the JSA Liberty Files: The Whistling Skull trade paper back,that is out tomorrow.

I hope we get a second mini from these guys with more JSA.

Crave Online spoke with Nicola Scott about her work on Earth 2 at NYCC. She explained how her and James Robinson worked out the ending of James’ last issue.

NS: He said “I think we should really devastate Steppenwolf, but if you want to keep him around, that’s up to you.” “I think we shouldn’t kill Green Lantern, but if you want to kill him, that’s up to you.” He really left things open. So Tom and I and the editor got to discuss really what we wanted to do and how we were going to do it. We were all in agreement to get rid of Steppenwolf, but we had to figure out how to do it. He’s been lurking in the shadows for a year and half, and this was his big moment. He kind of won, at least until the last panel. Tom and I did that panel and we knew he couldn’t just be a body on the ground, he’s a New God. So we decided to hit him with everything, split him in two, and his body will cause a massive chasm in the planet. Let’s just wipe Russia off the map.

Crave Online spoke with Nicola Scott about her work on Earth 2 at NYCC. She explained how her and James Robinson worked out the ending of James’ last issue.

NS: He said “I think we should really devastate Steppenwolf, but if you want to keep him around, that’s up to you.” “I think we shouldn’t kill Green Lantern, but if you want to kill him, that’s up to you.” He really left things open. So Tom and I and the editor got to discuss really what we wanted to do and how we were going to do it. We were all in agreement to get rid of Steppenwolf, but we had to figure out how to do it. He’s been lurking in the shadows for a year and half, and this was his big moment. He kind of won, at least until the last panel. Tom and I did that panel and we knew he couldn’t just be a body on the ground, he’s a New God. So we decided to hit him with everything, split him in two, and his body will cause a massive chasm in the planet. Let’s just wipe Russia off the map.